CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

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CMT
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CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by CMT » 05 Jan 2013, 16:13

PLEASE CAN SOMEBODY HELP/ ADVISE?

I am new to climbing and I plan to do the THREE PEAKS in late AUGUST/
SEPTEMBER 2013. I have four questions which I'd like to ask of somebody:

1. Do I need/ require a pass or permit to do the THREE PEAKS?

2. Can I just turn up and tackle said peaks?

3. Must I pay to climb?

4. If I fail to find/ make available accomodation etc can one hitch a
tent in the hills whilst tackling the THREE PEAKS? I am partially
aware of certain laws and legalities on camping etc and I can assure
you that I am a strict practitioner of eco-friendly camping and the
like.

CAN YOU PLEASE ADVISE?

I look forward to my hopefully hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

CURTIS TURNER
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mac.hawk
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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by mac.hawk » 05 Jan 2013, 22:47

Have you got the correct 3 Peaks site, this is the site of the Yorkshire 3 Peaks of Pen-y-ghent, Whernside & Ingleborough) and not the 'National' one (Scarfell, Snowdon & Ben Nevis) and you wouldn't normally expect people to 'climb' them?

By 'climb' I am assuming you do not mean 'walk' or 'hike' but 'climb' as you would say, The Matterhorn or Mont Blanc.

I suppose in theory it's possible to climb (as opposed to walk/hike) Pen-y-ghent and Ingleborough depending on where you approach them from but Whernside would be more of a steep trek whichever way you ascended it.

1. I wouldn't have thought so as the summits are all on access land.

2. Yup.

3. As the summits are all on access land I wouldn't have thought so.

4. If you wild camp in the Yorkshire Dales National Park strictly speaking you need to get permission from the land owner. The following website gives you a little advice http://www.nationalparks.gov.uk/visiting/camping.htm.

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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by CMT » 06 Jan 2013, 12:03

Dear mac.hawk,

thank you ever so much for your much-valued reply and advice. Yes, I am referring of course to the YORKSHIRE DALES 3 PEAKS (Pen-y-Gent; Whernside; Ingleborough).

Forgive my silly question but: So, you can't climb to the top of these but instead you just go 'round them? I thought people could climb them?

What advice can YOU give to a newby?

I look forward to my hopefully hearing from you.

Yours,

CURTIS TURNER
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mac.hawk
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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by mac.hawk » 06 Jan 2013, 19:07

Hi Curtis

The problem here is the terminology of 'climb' or 'climbing', something I would associate with mountain climbing where you use hard hats, ropes, crampons, slings etc.

If by 'climbing' you simply mean ascending on foot then the answer to your questions are

1. No 2. Yes 3. No

The point I'm making is that nearly everyone who walks/hikes (choose your own word) the 3 Peaks ascends them (and their summits) by footpath armed with little specialist equipment other than map, appropriate clothing (including footwear), adequate provisions, compass or GPS and a deal of common sense.

However I have, on the odd occasion, seen people 'mountain climbing' to Pen y Ghent summit from the Pen-y-ghent Pot area and Ingleborough summit over Black Shiver.

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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by CMT » 06 Jan 2013, 20:31

Dear mac.hawk

Thank you once again for your very helpful and much-valued advice. Please forgive my poor, possibly misguided use of the term 'to climb'. My incorrect terminology relates, one could say, to my being, as I've previously stated, an amateur/ newby, but I'm open to learn.

By ''climbing the Yorkshire Dales THREE PEAKS'' I mean to say that I wish to tackle/ ascend by foot. I am a complete virgin to the world of ''climbing'' or ''ascending hills and mountains on foot'' (again, forgive my poor terminology, but I see your meaning by differentiating between ''ascending on foot'' and the whole ''hard hats and crampon-thingy's-thing!).

What advice can YOU give me if I'm to tackle (scale/ ascend by foot) the THREE PEAKS? Where would you suggest I begin?

1. Can I start at Malham?
2. Is the terrain easy to access between Pen-y-Gent and the viaduct? The map shows nothing but open wilderness and a river or two? Is it boggy? Accessible?


I am a sensible learner and I am eco-aware. I have the minimal basic essentials. I don't want to go over the top and carry more weight than is necessary. I have a very good one-man tent and sleeping bag. I will of course re-invest in new boots before my setting off. I have and only ever use the minimal requirements for survival-needs (correct and replacement outdoor clothing/ gear; adequate footwear; easy-store/high energy food rations; first aid; torch; mobile-phone; waterproof gear; maps; torch etc...)

3. Do you think I will be allowed to camp overnight somewhere between the peaks? I have enquired with a governmental web-link-thingy and I'm awaiting further information? I figure that if you've got all these shops in the Dales and the Lakes selling, as they do, camping equipment and the like then it's pretty much all go on the ''yes, you camp in the hills'' sort of thing!

I look forward to my hopefully hearing from you

CURTIS TURNER :-)
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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by mac.hawk » 06 Jan 2013, 21:59

The latest version of the guide should give you all the information you should need.

1. You can start from anywhere if you so wish..............it all depends on your timescale and your ability.

Most people wishing to complete the challenge in the 12 hour timescale start at Horton-in-Ribblesdale, Ribblehead or near the Hill Inn on the Low Sleights Road.

The best fell runners starting in the same places do the challenge in under three hours when, us lesser mortals, take somewhat longer.

I wouldn't recommend starting from Malham if you wish to complete the circuit in a single day.

2. The guide as mentioned above, details this.

3. Holme Farm in Horton-in-Ribblesdale has a camp site which I believe is open throughout the year. Wild camping - I'd refer you to my first response.

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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by CMT » 07 Jan 2013, 13:45

Dear mac.hawk,

Thank you for your help. I think I'll start at Malham as I would like to see Malham Cove, Jan's Foss Waterfall walk and Gordale Scar before my heading to tackle the peaks.

Thanks again.

If you have any other advice then I would be truly grateful.

CURT :-)

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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by alfredalfred » 30 May 2016, 07:39

What advice can YOU give to a newby????

mac.hawk
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Re: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP/ ADVISE?

Post by mac.hawk » 30 May 2016, 19:13

My initial advice is to email me for a copy of 'The Guide' as it contains a plethora of information & advice - it's not just a 'follow the wall on the right, turn left at the next gate etc' type route guide.

Then if there's anything that you can think of that I've missed in 'The Guide' ask again in the Forum

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